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The Chamber's Position On Global Climate Change

Publication Date: 
March 2008

By Thomas J. Donohue, President and CEO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce
March 11, 2008

Most Americans have decided that climate change is happening and that human activity is a contributing factor. Today, the real debate is over what to do about it. Policymakers and the public have a range of views about how we should respond to climate change—and so does the business community.

Where does the Chamber stand, and how are we approaching this debate?

As the scientific inquiry continues—and it should—the Chamber supports public and private sector action to control the greenhouse gas emissions that contribute to climate change. We believe there are three important things that the country could be doing right now to make meaningful progress.

Efficiency—We must encourage and require stronger action by all energy consumers to use fuel and power more efficiently in buildings, appliances, consumer products, and transportation.

Technology—Government and business should support investment in new technologies that expand alternative energy and allow us to use traditional sources more cleanly—while taking care not to mandate the use of technology that does not yet exist.

Global action—The United States should exert strong leadership to conclude a successor agreement to the Kyoto Protocol. To work, this agreement must include all major carbon emitting economies.

There are also things we should not do. We should not implement policies that damage our economy or force American jobs overseas. And, we should not enact policies that ignore the importance of having continued access to traditional energy sources—including coal, oil, gas, and nuclear—as well as alternatives.

It is in this context that the Chamber is evaluating all proposals and approaches on Capitol Hill. We have no blanket position for or against the concepts of a cap-and-trade system or a carbon tax. We are using our judgment, expertise, and the input of our members to analyze specific bills and specific language. For example, we have done this in the case of the Lieberman-Warner climate change legislation and have determined that in its current form this bill does not make the grade.

There is a strong likelihood that sooner or later, action will be taken on the regulatory front, and the business community must be positioned to strongly influence such action. The Chamber will continue to play a leading role in the climate change debate and embrace positive solutions that make sense.

The best outcome for America's workers, families, and businesses is one that balances our country's need for a secure, growing supply of affordable energy with the need to address the risk of climate change by controlling greenhouse gases. Striking this balance will not be easy, but it must be done for the sake of a competitive American economy and a cleaner global environment.

Comments

Richard Pell 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

I am surprised that the Chamber would buy into total acceptace of man-made global warning. While global warming may be occuring (although global temperatures have been trending down for the last 10 years), there is absoutely no proof that it is man-made or even that man can control it. There is also no proof that even if we have global warming, that it may not actually be benefical.
The cap and trade programs will add excessive taxes on business, and will do nothing to reduce CO2 levels. It is an earmark of gigantic proportions for Al Gore. If the Chamber actually supports business, you will work to get out the truth about global warming. (Arlington, Texas)




Laurence Heine 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

One other thing that congress should NOT do is implement policies that favor one technology over another. The misguided ethanol program has doubled the price of corn and other grains but the production of ethanol is neither energy efficient nor carbon friendly. It would be much better to allow the most efficient and carbon friendly process to be developed than to promote inefficient solutions through tax benefits. (Harrisonburg, VA)




craig 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

We should be drilling for oil in our costal waters and ANWAR. Kyoto is a load of crap. Global warming is probably a myth to be replaced by the next coming ice age. Australia just had their coldest summer in decades. (Mt Vernon, wa)




Barbara Bostic 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

It's true that there is no absolute proof that global warming is factual. However, neither is there is proof to the contrary. Until the verdict is in, it is my opinion we should proceed with precautionary measures, just in case. If global warming is not man made or even a real circumstance, then nothing is lost. If the verdict comes back in the positive, we haven't lost valuable time in finding solutions to the problem. (Bedford, Virginia)




Tom 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

There is no such thing as "man made" global warming. The sun causes the warmth that we enjoy on earth. The only thing the sun doesn't warm is the pockets of Al Gore and the socialist agenda to fight capitalism. Follow the money trail. (Northwood, IA)




Larry Wilmarth 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

Their are many knowledgeable scientists who have done years of research around the world who disagree with the idea that man is the principle cause for global warming.I agree with them. I wonder also about the earths continuing tilt and sun orientation and the earths changing proximity to the sun. I think too much hype by the greens cloud the reasons for warming and therefore the practical steps for spending resources to prepare for the future. (Anchorage, Alaska)




Jeff Hannaford 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

I first want to thank the President and staff of the Chamber for their efforts in this and other important issues. My opinion is that the business community should become very active on this issue to the point of taking the lead in energy conservation. We must not wait for the government to act. If we do, the consequenses will be greater and more dire. We must come to the realization that this is a case of when not if changes are needed. The longer we wait, the more costly to everyone - businesses, individuals, governments. We are talking about making difficult decisions now to insure that the future generations (our children and their children) are not unfairly strapped with insurmountable environmetal and health issues. I belive we should also lobby for greater tax incentives for energy conservation and energy alternatives. We should lead by example. We may all be able to afford the luxurious gas guzzler, but what does that show our chidren, our employees? The future of our chidren depends on our ability to make the tough decisions and put their future ahead of our own immediate wants and desires. The only way it can happen is if we realize it will take sacrifices from this generation first to help insure a healthy environment for them. How much time do we have to wait? (Tyngsborough, MA)




mike graviet 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

Mr. Donohue,

As long as you continue to espouse the false theory that global warming is a fact and that human activity is the cause - you will not be receiving any further funding from myself. (emmett, idaho)




Michael B 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

Yes, they have all decided that "we are contributing to global warming". Just like everyone KNEW the world was flat! And that the sun revolved around the earth!

What a bunch of arrogance!

We have NOTHING to do with it!

Global warming is NOT a choice, it is but a FACT that "WE" have nothing to do with! If we could control it we would! This is simply a way to scare the people of this world into higher taxes from a bunch of do NOTHING polititions who simply want to control your life!

They need to get the heck out of my life and quit trying to control my every move!

Our founding fathers would be rolling over in thier graves to see what we have done to our beloved "REPUBLIC"!! (Aliso Viejo, CA)




Dean Shauers, P.E. 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

I think that the Chamber should review the accptance of their position on mans impact on global warming. There is very compelling information about the global warming subject on the following site and I would encourage anyone interested in the debate to review in detail.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm

At last count there are ~19,000 scientists that have signed the petition. If you are looking for the cause of global warming, look up to that big round thing in the sky.

Dean (Parker, CO)




Rolland Pruner 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

Man does not cause Global warming, We have had the coolest temps for the last 200 years. (of record). This is just Librals trying to get more money from our pockets. (Livermore, calif)




Kirk Crawford 10/12/2009 3:18:03 AM

I cannot agree with Richard Pell's comments more. This is a classic case of "if you say something enough times it will be taken as fact".
The FULL data does not support global warming. The recent climate conference (3/2 -3/4) in New York was reported very little by the media. Many scientists and other experts in this field dispute global warming and have the facts to support their conclusions.
Follow the money. There are many people and companies making a lot of money off the scare tactics and dire predictions of climate change.
The Chamber is doing a disservice to its menbers by supporting any legislation that puts restrictions (costs) on business based on climate change. (Chino, California)




Michael B 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Additionally,

If the "Human Factor" is such a major factor in the "Global Warming" SCAM, what caused it before our "Industrial Revolution"?

This is such a rediculous discussion!

Although, I do believe we should be consciensous in our efforts, "Government" needs to get the heck out of the way! Private enterprise, when it is necessary can come up with EVERY needed alternative.

However, my earlier assertion stands. "WE" have NOTHING to do with the "Naturally Occuring Global Warming"!!!!!!

The earth goes through cycles that are NATURAL! None of these so called "experts" take THAT into consideration. They believe that their finite "wisdom" constitutes the "infinite wisdom of the universe". What a CROCK!!!! (Aliso Viejo, California)




Josh 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Over 19 thousand scientists and 600 scientific organizations have signed an affidavit expelling the idea that Global Warming is man made. Since the beginning of time, it has been recorded that only less than 1% is the human contribution of carbon pollution to the earth. Our polar caps have increased in size over the past 3 years and temperatures are dropping. In addition, Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It is the very life thread in which plants an animals are born and thrive. 'Global Warming' is the largest fraud perpetrated on the world public in history and Mr. Gore should have his Nobel Prize stripped, merely for the falsehoods put forward in his film which have since been debunked as non-factual.

With all due respect, the Chamber is wasting their time with this issue. Most American's DO NOT believe that Global Warming is man made or is even happening at all. Why don't you concentrate on more important issues like how the local businesses can help and support each other through this recession. (Ponte Vedra, FL)




Charlie Wasser 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I agree that there is something to global warming. It appears to be happening. I do not believe that human activity is the major cause. There are too many other possibilities. None of the more vocal group accussing man of causing it, even mentions the possibility of precession being the main cause. Precession is the physical phenomenon that causes the direction of the earth's axis to rotate over a 26,000 year period. That causes the sun to hit the earth at a different angle - pointing one way, the sun warms the Northern Hemisphere which is mainly land; pointing 180 degrees in a different direction, the sun heats the Southern Hemisphere which is mainly water. Heating land and water causes different results. 11,000 to 12,000 years ago the Earth had its most recent Ice Age. Hmmm....now we have global warmer. Anybody see a pattern? (Cupertino, CA)




Ron Schaeffer 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Congratulations on finally getting off the fence and joining with the nations and people who recognize this as a serious and difficult problem to be solved. You can tell by some of the responses that there remains a small but vocal minority still in denial, whether it be out of ignorance or anti-intellectual motivations. I applaud the Chamber for taking a firm and positive stance on this most difficult issue. The worse thing we can do is nothing. To stand by and not begin to unite to address this global problem is suicide, and business is a key to successful action. Thank you. (Lewes, Delaware)




Van B. Norris 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

"More than 19,000 basic and applied American scientists, two-thirds with advanced degrees, haved signed the 'Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine's Global Warming Petition', which says in part "There is no convincing evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the forseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate" Cap and trade is nothing more than the modern day sale of Indulgences. Do we really think that having 65 molecules of CO2 rather than 23 molecules out of every 100,000 will lead to the destruction of life as we know it? If global warming will benefit some locations (Canada, Greenland, [and yes, the USA])and not others (as it will), aren't we being arrogant in demanding the world mobilize to maintain the status-quo? (Horton, Kansas)




Lisa Curry 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I am so glad to see that there are other people who don't believe this global warming garabge. I can't believe how many people have bought into the media hype. All they want to do is scare people and cause business to have to spend more money to "Save the Earth". We didn't cause it and we can't fix it. (Daytona Beach, FL)




Joe Higgins 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

One of the concerns about global warming, is that the level of the world's oceans has been consistanly rising. This in theory is causing more probelms with coastal erosion, flooding and often violent and destuctive wave activity. This may sound pretty simplistic, but isn't it possible that much of this is caused by the displacement of water from inland water ways which is a result of land development? As cities and housing grow, there is runoff which fills streams and rivers and the water has to go somewhere, eventually finding it's way to the ocean. It seems that this is a problem which man can solve with better planning, dredging out inland waterways and less ocean dumping. (Manasquan, NJ)




Dave J 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

What kind of idiocy would allow the Chamber to have someone make a comment that, "most Americans have accepted that Global Warming is occurring and that it is partly caused by human activity"?

Do we all have to buy into this latest "crisis" created by the left to bring the U.S. down to the level of the rest of the world.

You do not have to be too much of a deep thinker to understand that this is just a money grab. Transfer wealth from the haves to the have nots.

Why do you think that China one of the worlds biggest polluters is just laughing at how the US is wringing their hands about how to stop Manhattan and Florida from being flooded.

The real science is that we have been seeing cooling over that last 10 years. No matter to the scaremongers. They have just changed the name of the crisis from Global Warming to Global climate change.

If it is such a crisis why won't these leftist let us use more nuclear energy? It seems to be working well in France. Because they are not interested in solving the problem, (that does not really exist)they are just interested in keeping a crisis in front of everyone, so they can propose wonderful new (not) socialist reforms.

And while all this is going on, Al Gore, Arnold, and RFK Jr. fly around on private jets. Apparently Arnold commutes daily in a private jet to Sacramento. And these hypocites want to tell us not to drive SUVs. Give me a break!

And now the Chamber is buying into this nonsense?!!

Wake up! (Chantilly , VA)




Michael Dougherty 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

It's official. The Chamber has just sold us out. They've bought into the biggest swindle in the history of the planet. There is ample evidence that man is NOT the cause of climate change. There is NO hard evidence that we are. When you pin down a Goron on the facts, they inevitably will either point to computer modeling and tell you that the facts are irrelevant. It's a FACT that CO2 comprises less than 3% of the greenhouse gases, and man contributes less than 3% of CO2. We could revert to the stone age and it wouldn't change a thing. It is clear that Mr. Donohue has had a healthy glass of Al Gore's Koolaid. I for one no longer feel the U.S. Chamber represents me. (Bozeman, Montana)




Clayton 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Fact - I am good friends with several research meteorologists.
Fact - the head researcher at their facility totally disagreed with Global Warming, much less man, made global warming, even though everyone else there said he was wrong.
Fact - late last year (2007) he realized he had some incorrect data in his calculations, he now is a complete believer in global warming (although not sold on it being a majority man-made, he agrees that it is at least in part man-made).
Fact - even religious fanatics are getting on board with being more environmentally friendly. Once some of the strongest critics of global warming, both the Vatican and the Souther Baptist Church have just this week put out opinions that for Catholics suggests that harming the environment should be a sin and for South Baptists suggests that they should do all they can to keep our environment healthy.

Truth - being more environmentally friends can be more cost-effective (recycled products are usually cheaper, Compact Florescent Bulbs are cheaper to light, with gas so expensive higher MPG cars are cheaper to drive).
Truth - being environmentally friendly helps our health, even if it has nothing to do with global warming.
Truth - we wouldn't be in a war with Iraq if is wasn't for oil. The sooner we get off of this addiction, the safer, more secure, and generally better off we are as a country.

Fact - all three leading presidential candidates, Clinton, McCain, Obama, all have plans to help the US stop polluting, so much. (Huntsville, AL)




Ralph Bishop 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

A growing number of the world's climate experts are disputing the global warming theory based on new and more accurate computer models.

Those pushing the global warming theory have generated a lot of revenue through speeches and research grants. To many it is a way to battle capitalism and to raise taxes.

I would caution the Chamber from getting drawn into this unproven scheme. (Melbourne, Florida)




Les B 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I can hardly believe what I'm reading here! Regardless of whether or not some individual academics dispute the human causes for global warming, the majority of scientists worldwide support it. It's fine and dandy to support the minority opinion, except what if they're WRONG? Wouldn't it make better sense to do the prudent thing and do whatever is necessary to reduce greenhouse gasses to no avail, than to take the very real risk of passing on an economically unsustainable planet to our children and grandchildren when we could have done something to prevent it? There's no guarantee either way, but the risk of betting against human-caused global warming and being wrong is so enormous as to be nearly unthinkable. (Rehoboth Beach, DE)




Jim Parks 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

When there is an active attempt to shut down any debate, contrary to the group think, I doubt that earth warming is caused by our activities. I also doubt that most Americans believe it is a fact - but if we keep brain washing them with the world is ending - it probably will become a fact. I think, as a lot of experts in weather, etc., find they have backbone - we will find that earth warming was nothing more then an issue used to impose more government on our businesses and in our personal lives. What the Chamber should be doing is supporting an open debate on the whole issue and coming down hard on anyone that tried to shut it down. Finally, there are to many businesses, and people, that have a financial intertest in insuring we all believe in earth warming. When we kick them out of the debate - then we will find out what is true and what is not. (San Antonio, Texas)




Gary Buffon 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

What a shame the US Chamber is unwilling to stand up to the sham of Global Warming, climate change or whatever else it is called. To agree with the elitists liberals and watermelons (green on outside, red on inside)who have loosed this confidence game on our world will create long term more violence, revolution, class warfare, haves and have nots and third world discontent. This will make the chaos of the 1930's look like childs play. (El Cerrito, CA)




Dean 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I will repeat myself for the benefit of those folks (including the Chamber) that think man is the cause of global warming, and those that concur that man is not the cause. PLEASE READ THE INFORMATION AT THE FOLLOWING WEBSITE:

http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm

The Kyoto accord signed by Bill Clinton, but not authorized by congress would ruin the US Economy, and as a result would devistate large populations around the world that rely on our strength. (Parker, CO)




Frank Ogden 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

There is a growing body of evidence - hard data not human-crafted computer algorithims, that indicate the climate leveled off in 1998. Then, starting with the end of the 11 year solar flare cycle last July, the earth is actually cooling. The acceptance of Algore's assertions by the media and others is astonishing. Real scientists are studying and publishing data - not assertions. Sir, don't you know that the green movement is the home of discredited communists who wish nothing more than the end of capitalism? Going green means higher prices for everything and fewer jobs and less money because of government control of as much as possible. Bad decision on your part to join the green movement. You should be supporting more oil production, more refineries built, more nuclear power generation, more jobs and more wealth creation - not cutting back on commerce. (Cottonwood, AZ)




Michael Sullivan 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

It is with a great sense of regret that I noted your willingness to accept some political "successor to the Koyoto Accords." My grave concern is that when the supposed champion of enterprise and industry - the U S Chamber of Commerce - abandons key positions defending commerce and enterprise and agrees to a Koyoto-type of agreement, much is lost. This simple act empowers our the most radical anti-capitalistic opponents to insure the curtailment of good, desirable commercial activity for some theory that is clearly not proven. Your willingness to quit the fight is, just that, surrender.

Further, the idea of a Koyoto Accord supports the ideas of a world organization like the UN becoming the final arbitrator on such matters. I don't remember voting for them to have authority over my country.

I regret your action and feel that after enough time in Washington, even good people like yourselves, seem to fall prey to unfounded media-inspired hype. This is a very sad day.

As I say, I am truly disappointed by your misguided "enlightened" position. Today is a sad day as no one speaks for enterprise --- you've joined the environmetals at the expense of the capitolists.

(Westbroookville, NY)




Caroline Root 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Global climate change is a fact, and has happened throughout the history of this planet. When the most recent ice sheet receded from North America, it created what is now known as Yosemite National Park. Change will continue to happen. (Coarsegold, California)




K.A.Hansen 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Climate change is obvoius to all but the dullest of persons. In the 1970 we were told that the next Ice Age was just around the corner. For the last 5 years we have been told look out for the global warming. For all the fake science one thing is clear, Man is not the cause. From the BRILLIANT Al Gore we can see that( he hasn't caught it yet) That the global temp has risen before the CO2 levels rise. If all the money wasn't paid to prove man is the cause, a real scientist would admit the our earth temp is due to Sun spot activity. Man can effect the stmosphere for everytime we save an old growth tree, that we could replace with several younger growing trees we increase the CO2 and minimize the Oxygen formed when plants convert CO2 to O2.If man wants to have an impact on CO2 lets cut down the dying old trees and replace them with young health trees that improve our atmosphere. Also remember that China and Poland are some of the worst at protecting the atmosphere. This nation is doing more than its part in protecting the atmosphere, other nations need to be more responsible with omitions. I for one don't want to go back to living as they did 1400 years ago in a unimproved tent. For those who do the third world has plenty of open spaces. In Oregon man only lives on 4% of the space, I think there is plenty of room for responsible living without crippling all US. industry. (Aloha, Oregon)




Eric C. Nye 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

The fact that the American Political Machine is so Anti "Global Warming" reminds of the "Tobacco doesn't cause cancer" debate. What if the "Global Warming Myth" is true? And we do nothing? Hey I have kids, and ignoring potential disasters is not wise. (Panama City, fl)




Gary Matson 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I noticed the Chambers coments Re: "Global Climate Change" So glad you did not fall into that "Global Warming" trap.

As regards Climate Change, this has been occuring since the earth was created. I think it is incredibly arrogant to even suggest that we COULD affect the climate toa any degree.

Our maker made the earth and the climate. If he chooses to change it, oh well!!! (Palmerton, PA)




Earnest F. Harper, CSP, DABFE 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Sorry, but the warming is natural due to ~ 50 years of a higher radiant (sun) energy. Not one scientist has shown how 0.038% of the earth's atmoshere by volume can effect this rise. NOT ONE! Likewise the CPU Models fail every time. We've had hotter periods in our past. The arguments and data go on and on that we do not begin to add enough CO2 to overcome what the Earth absorbs via plant life and in the oceans. Consider the reduced ice caps on Mars. Do we take responsibility for that? In fact, there will be a Global cooling period starting in about 3 years reaching a low point about 2040. The winter of 2007-2008 may be a symptom of whats to come because it is well below the norm, globally! Sorry wrong-way Al! Now, there is nothing inherently wrong with exploring new technologies, etc, but NOT because of CO2! We need to build a refinery, drill in Alaska and off-shore while building Nuclear power plants and yes...we know how to handle the spent fuel. So take the smart path and drop the faulty premise supported by Al and his ever smaller crowd of so-called scientists. Do no harm, folks.

E. Harper, CSP, DABFE, DABFET, CFC (Boise, Idaho)




Dean Dennison 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Should we be and act responsibly - Most definitely! Is the human race the culprit - Clearly not! Are you selling out? I hope not.
Please rethink your position and show some common sense. (Pensacola, Florida)




Dennis Detten 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I am both apalled and disappointed that the chamber would fall for this anti-capitalist hoax called man made global warming. I remember joining this organization as a refuge against this lunacy--not to surrender to it. I cannot in good conscience be a part of an organization that sells my business out to contrived higher costs for the sake of naked populism. (Hereford, Texas)




David S. 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

It's a fact that I think global warming is a sham and possibly communist agenda, and you can't dispute that. Also, all these people railing about how the "crisis" is man made... what about women! Don't they emit green house gases under this leftist "theory," or are we to believe that woman are supposed to be equal to men in every way, but not on this one. This is the sort of "logic" that the academics would have us believe. And many of these academics don't even believe in real models, and even more are starting to dispute the theory of global warming in support of the reality based approach of global null temperature theory, the idea that the earth is really really big, and the idea that we can't even measure its temperature because it's probably really complicated and beyond understanding. I mean, if it's 20 degrees in Chicago and 70 in Arizona how can we claim to know what the "temperature of the earth" is?? IT MAKES NO SENSE. In conclusion, I am dissapointed, confused, heart-broken,a little excited, and I'm sweating more profusely than usual. The US Chamber Magazine and Mr. Thomas J Donahue can be certain that I will make my FACTS heard as soon as another article is posted. (Chicago, Illinois)




Harry Hansen 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Everyone will really have egg on there face when we have a 30 year cooling period. I believe nature will take it course, we have little effect on the broad picture. (Five Points, CA)




Sue Phillips 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I think the statements Mr. Donuhue made regarding global warming and our responsibility for it is wrong. The USA over time has become a very good steward of our environment and will continue to do so. We need to approve the builing of nuclear plants, drill in Alaska and off the coast in Florida, and approve the building of new refineries. Technology for safer and cleaner nuclear plants, drilling and refining are available and will only get better if the industries can be given the opportunity. Government intervention and over regulation only muck up our environment (like ethanol - the most recent "alternative energy source", which is making the cost of our food go through the roof). (Mahwah, NJ)




Chris MacBlain 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Apparently, from the comments I've read so far, it appears that propoganda is the only thing which is growing . . . on both sides of the issue. The Global Warming debate is if we (humans) have CONTRIBUTED to the problem. The answer is yes. Are we totally responsible? No, of course not. But as with all things in human existence, we seem to go to extremes in points of view. The answer to all this is, do we have a problem . . . Yes we do. The next step is what we should do about it. Not argue who's right and who's wrong. And please people, Al Gore is a only a simple hominid with a point of view, to which he is entitled.
Corroborated facts say we are affecting our whirling sphere. Let's dedicate ourselves to cleaning up our act and getting back to basics. We've not done a laudable job thus far. Let's ALL OF US work together. Leave the egos and rhetoric at the door and roll up our sleeves. It's the only home we have. (Chipley, FL)




Cindy 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Don't you hand-wringers get it?

This is how the left operates. Create a crisis that can ONLY be solved by huge transfers of wealth, and massive government intervention.

They have two working right now. Global Climate Change, and the Health Care Crisis.

Is there really anyone that would go to another country for their health care? Doubtful. But we let Michael Moore tell us that Cuba has better health care than the US.

What is wrong with the US healthcare delivery system is that it needs to be MORE open to the free market. Now it is HMOs and Insurance providers that control the costs, and their own profit margins. Lets go back to when doctors and hospitals set prices in a market environment.

But I digress. With their media accomplices in the press, Hillary and Obama etc.. announce that there is a CRISIS that can only be solved by massive government intervention and reform.

Be afraid, be very afraid. Whether it is climate change, or health care, these are manufactured crises to allow the gubment to coerce you into living at a lower starndard of living. Because they will need more of your money to finance their grand plans.

No one is for pollution, and no one wants to see someone without healthcare. But slow down and take a deep breath before you continue to hand over freedoms (choosing your own doctor, regulating your own thermostat) to big brother. I mean big sister...... Hillary.

This is right out of Karl Marx's playbook.

Don't you get it?!!! (Alexandria , VA)




Charles C 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Global warming is a falsehood to destroy Capitalism. Only dummies belived in man made global warming. God Controls the weather and it will be what he wills it to be. There is going to be real global warming someday. Get Ready. (Rome, GA)




Terry Shore 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I have read the comments that attack the idea that global warming is happening and that it is the fault of human activity. Count me in that category too.
Solar activity is the sole source of heat for Earth and solar activity is not constant, it flows in cycles. Don't get caught up in this craziness.

(Arab, Alabama)




Mark Johnson 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

The only scientists claiming global warming isn't caused by the burning of fossil fuels all work for oil companies. Duh. (Cherokee, Iowa)




James Nelson 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I disagree with your opening paragraph. Based upon what I have read, the conclusion human behavior is contributing in a significant fashion to global warming is founded on flawed models. I understand there is a current conference in New York city attended by scientists who doubt the human factor in whatever global warming might be occurring. I am anxious to read of their discussion (if the national news media provides a resource for me to do so). (Hammond, Louisiana)




Marv Johnson 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Now I feel truly justified in dropping membership in the Chamber after this article and their stance on the eminent domain issue (Eagan, Mn)




Alec 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Whenever you see or hear a "scientist" with hysteria in his or her voice, you can bet their personal income depends on their particular crisis being considered real and threatening.

Grants and government research only continues if a crisis is perceived by the public. If warming continues in the northern hemisphere at the current rate of less than 1 degree a century, maybe we can grow mangoes and oranges here in a couple of hundred years like the Floridians. Maybe we won't be getting headlines like we got this winter of "The worst ice storm/blizzard/winter storm in history" from the northern cities.

The first crisis of note was global cooling in the 70s. That didn't resonate very well, so they decided that the ozone layer was in danger due to Chlorofluorocarbons from canned air and sprays and air conditioners. Now it's global warming because of Carbon Dioxide which is right now in lower concentrations than it was many times in the past which not coincidentlly led to very rich plant life. (CO2 is plant food when combined with sunlight, water, and some ground based nutrients).

The US Chamber of Commerce is starting to sound like the US Chamber of Propaganda.

If "we" are really responsible for all this damage, why do we keep increasing the world population and in so doing cause even greater so-called damage? Even China is backing off on its zero to negative population growth mandates.

How many of you "environmentalist zealots" are adding to the problem by having children who will also use up resources and increase the problems that you find so compelling? If you talk the talk, you should walk the walk.

The great fusion reactor in the sky is the big variable that we can't regulate on any level, so there is no money or control for the elitists there. So, it can't possibly be the problem! (Mobile, AL)




David J 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

This seems to be one more example of the Chamber being with the large corporations who have a vested interest in seeing profits from the "global" warming scare, rather than the small to medium sized company who will end up paying the bills. (Richfield, Mn)




Alan 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

Cindy has it right. Global warming is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on a naïve and uneducated public. Cow farts contribute more to global warming than fossil fuel consumption. Thank God that nut-job Al Gore never got elected. Come on America…. Wake up! (Vero Beach, Florida)




Terry Swanson 10/12/2009 3:18:04 AM

I guess MOST Americans don't believe human activity is the cause of Global Climate Change.
The only reason anyone would beleive the nonsense is that they will benefit from it. (Money wise not enviromentally). By the way, I have some carbon credits from Al Gore to sell?? Whats with that "I get to use more energy than anyone else and pollute more cause I came up with it"? tells you right there he's in for more money for his pockets than the environment. (Inver Grove Heights, MN)




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